| Hi Lloyd, Thanks for the info.  It has been quite a period for 
                    me since I last wroteyou in June.  I was feeling worse and worse.  So 
                    the doctor did a battery of tests to find out why the HELL 
                    my enzymes were 282(AST) and 311(ALT).  
                    I had an ultrasound, CT scan, blood work, urine tests nothing.  
                    I did have some auto antibodies and he was suspecting that 
                    since I'm young, female and took interferon that I might be 
                    having an autoimmune reaction.  I was terrified.  
                    I don't need any other illness.  HEP C is enough for 
                    me thank you very much.
 Anyway he ordered a second liver biopsy (the first was done 
                    before Istarted the IFN in Jan 2001) and this time the biopsy was 
                    hell I was in pain for a couple of days after it.  Luckily 
                    there were no other complications.  So I did the biopsy 
                    on 8/1 and it doesn't look bad overall but it's not good either.
 Before the treatment my enzymes were ~60s or so and the biopsy 
                    showed mild chronic hepatitis c grade 1 fibrosis stage 1. 
                      Now my enzymes are in the 200s and even though it confirmed 
                    that it is indeed only the hepatitis that seems to have "flared 
                    up" I now have lobular inflamation and the diagnosis 
                    was chronic mild hepatitis c grade 2 fibrosis stage 1.  
                    I'm not sure what that means but my second biopsy had a lot 
                    more info in it than the first. Anyway, I'm concerned that the virus has gone haywire after 
                    the ifn and that I won't be able to control it now.  
                    My doctor tried to get me on the IFN again and I said no. 
                      Unless I'm one step away from a liver transplant I 
                    won't do it again.  Besides, I was a non-respondent the 
                    first time, what makes him think that I'll respond this time? He tried to sell me on Pegasys instead of PegIntron.  
                    I told them thatthat basically just meant switching brands of the same poison 
                    so I said NO NO NO.
 So anyway Lloyd, I'm writing because I need some advice as 
                    to what to add to my treatment.  The doctor put me on 
                    Trental and Actigall which I read they are to treat PBC and 
                    other liver conditions to control fibrosis development.  
                    I agreed because it seemed like the side effects are "minor". 
                    I'm desperate.  I need to bring my enzymes down at least 
                    to the 100's.I re-started your treatment on May 
                    21st like I wrote you before and since then I have 
                    seen some improvement in the enzymes but I'm still not feeling 
                    well at all.
 Since I started your treatment my enzymes were 
                    May 20th AST(282) 
                    ALT(311) the 
                    last enzyme test was done on July 
                    2nd and showing ALT(238) 
                    AST(187).  
                    These tests however were done at different labs so i'm not 
                    sure about the accuracy of the numbers.  Do you think 
                    this is good progress as far as bringing down the enzymes 
                    down is concerned?  OnJuly 2nd I had been on the treatment for 6 weeks so 
                    I think it's not too bad.  what do you think?
 Currently I'm taking the following regimen:1 vial of thymus 3X week
 2 alfalfa caps
 6 Milk thistle caps
 100mcg selenium
 4000mg Vitamin C
 calcium
 4oz aloe daily
 600mg Lipoic Acid
 1 quart of Dandelion Root Tea.
 
 What else should I add to see more improvement?  I'm 
                    kind of tight with
 money right now.  I'm being notified about layoffs in 
                    a few weeks and I believe I'm going to be affected.  
                    I was thinking of adding Natcell Liver but I can only afford 
                    to take it once a week.
 Do you have any suggestions?   Is there anything else 
                    I can do to bring down the enzyme more?  Right now I'm 
                    worried about the activity on the liver.  I want to target 
                    the virus but I want to focus first on the enzymes.  
                    By the way I had a test for my viral 
                    load done in June and it was sky high 31,800,000 (sorry 
                    I don't remember the units).  I will fax you all my results 
                    from the biopsy labs, etc maybe you can see something I can't. Thanks and god bless you,R.
 
 Hi R: You need to stop seeing your doctor or at least stop letting 
                    him influenceyou as far as the treatment of hepatitis c goes.  I mean 
                    this, I am not
 kidding.  These people are not in a time frame of reality.
 They, doctors, are completely ignorant on the topic of hep 
                    c all together! It is difficult to believe but they seem to be in a time 
                    warp.  Nothing theydo works just makes things worse.  You need to stop taking 
                    the items you
 mentioned that they give you for fibrosis..
 Stay away from them except for blood tests and just get them 
                    faxed to you.  Your AST and ALT have come down a lot 
                    in a very short time on my program. The lab you use when testing AST and ALT does not make much 
                    difference.  The viral load is the one that can be very 
                    different. Keep drinking my teas, best thing you can do for the AST 
                    and ALT. You were right as far as Pegasus.  Same poison, different 
                    name.Interferon does not work the second time around or more to 
                    the point, it
 is less likely to work the second time because the HCV mutates 
                    with each
 replication building an immunity to interferon.
 HCV is smart, it has something that resembles intelligence. 
                      I know bysaying that I will be branded a complete idiot but it does 
                    have a quality of
 intelligence and it needs to be dealt with on that level.
 Are you taking coral legend?Can you take 900 mg of lipoic acid a day?
 Can you drink reishi tea? It is something you need.
 Do not worry about the fibroses, it will correct itself on 
                    my program.
 Do not worry about anything.
 Time released interferon takes time to get out of your system 
                    and it takes time to recover from it.  As you recover 
                    from the folly, peg intron, you will begin to recover from 
                    hep c. I am here.Lloyd
 
 
 
 
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