Hello 
                      Lloyd,
                    I 
                      am very grateful to have learned about your book and treatment. 
                      I cannot thank you enough for your help, and thank God that 
                      you have the courage and the will to help others as well.
                    I 
                      am getting no support or anything that I would describe 
                      as proper medical care now that I have refused to let them 
                      pump me full of Peg-Interon. I guess I should consider myself 
                      lucky that they at least gave me a standing order to go 
                      take tests and then give me a copy afterwards. I though 
                      I was doing great until a recent test came back. I really 
                      need your advice if you could please spare me a moment of 
                      your time.
                    I 
                      started following your program (as much as I can afford 
                      to) since about 12/01, and everything was progressing 
                      nicely (all documents attached). Enzymes coming down 
                      and loads: 1st test 850,000; 
                      2nd exact count test 611,000; 
                      3rd 534,000.   
                      But the forth jumped to over 4 
                      million! and because I had hoped that it was wrong, I had 
                      another one done a week later and it was down, but still 
                      over 3 million. During the time between the 3rd 
                      and last tests (two months), the following occurred: 
                      -Changed anti depressants (SSRI roulette) from Celexa 
                      20mg daily (which I had been taking all along) to 
                      Paxil (which didn't work) to Prozac (which made 
                      me feel worse) to Effexor 150mg daily. Then even that 
                      didn't work so I stopped taking everything.
                    Finally, 
                      I just could not stand it and started taking Celexa again. 
                      The only reason that I changed in the first place was that 
                      I had read that Celexa is bad for the liver long term.  
                      I am back taking the Celexa and occasional Xanax which I 
                      had been taking previously until I can get in to see a physiatrist 
                      about this wicked depression I find myself in.
                    Went 
                      through a week of extreme stress I think now that this was 
                      due to the Prozac - started taking it on a Thursday and 
                      by Sunday I was extremely depressed and unstable. I required 
                      hospitalization and events there actually made me feel worse. 
                      Really freaked me out. -Started getting concerned about 
                      losing too much weight and started to include some additional 
                      foods to my diet, such as ice cream, fish, nuts, eggs, and 
                      had a few non-alcoholic beers (12 over two months) 
                      to remind me of the old days.
                     
                      -I am taking: (all from your website)
                    Live 
                      cell thymus every other day
                      Thymus capsules 1000mg three times daily
                      Milk thistle capsules two three times daily
                      | Milk Thistle tea - 1-2 quarts per day
                      Dandelion root tea - 1-2 quarts a day
                      Selinium 200mcg twice daily
                      Lipioc Acid 200mg three times daily
                      Super Vitamin B complex 1 twice daily
                      Vitamin C 1000mg three times daily
                      Calcium supplement
                    My 
                      diet is vegan and as organic as possible. I am eating artichokes 
                      daily, and in general the healthiest diet I have ever had.
                    So 
                      my questions are:
                    Can 
                      you attribute the spike in viral load to anything above 
                      or can it be expected to jump around?
                    How 
                      does my biopsy look? Do you see anything on any of the blood 
                      work that I should be concerned about? Should I expect my 
                      ALT levels to be lower by now? I attached all my records 
                      for your review.
                    Sorry 
                      for the flood of attachments. I appreciate any help you 
                      can give, and I admire all your hard work and courage. Please 
                      keep in mind when you get down that you are the guy that 
                      has given me hope that I will indeed someday get to see 
                      my grandchildren. The most precious gift - a gift of time.
                    Bless 
                      you Lloyd
                      D. 
                    
                    Hi 
                      D.:
                    I 
                      have read every test you provided, I have found from talking 
                      with 1000s of people who have hep c that mood elevators, 
                      Prozac, celexa etc. have a very distinct effect on the viral 
                      load.
                    In 
                      particular celexa doubles and triples the viral load in 
                      every person that has reported there use to me. In some 
                      the viral load just continues to climb. These items scramble 
                      the brain function. That is my opinion but what really happens 
                      is that the brain chemistry is changed. This change appears 
                      to cause more than what the pill was designed to do. I realize 
                      there is no documation of this except mine. I have discussed 
                      this at length with a noted physcritist. He, of coarse knows 
                      little or nothing about hep c but he did feel that I was 
                      on to something that should be brought to the attention 
                      of the medical profession. The mere fact that you mixed 
                      these products may have caused the rise in viral load.
                    Your 
                      doctor will not agree. After reading your tests, it is possible 
                      that they are not the same. I suspect this because the first 
                      2 say Amplification The last 2 say Quantitation Amplification 
                      This is a different test than the quantative or the qualitative. 
                      One of your tests is a range test. The range test and the 
                      rest of the tests have different senitivite and can not 
                      be used to compare each other. Your viral load may not have 
                      changed that much. I do not know because I do not know how 
                      much difference there is between them. I do see 10 times 
                      the difference between tests each day of my life but they 
                      are tests I have seen before.
                    There 
                      are well over 100 different types of viral load test for 
                      hep c all calling themselves PCR. They can not be compared. 
                      One needs to get the same test each time by the same lab, 
                      one with an exact number to know what is really happening. 
                      In your case, aside from the confusing test, the mood elevator 
                      is no doubt causing a swing in the viral load.
                    Do 
                      not let this alarm you! The viral load is not connected 
                      to the AST, ALT or symptoms or damage. Not at all!
                    Your 
                      mind comes first and if you are depressed then that comes 
                      first. When you get that under control then your viral load 
                      will no doubt come down again. Do not be in a hurry. This 
                      is a slow disease and my program is working even if you 
                      can not see the viral load coming down. It is still supporting 
                      your immune system. Drink more dandelion root tea and do 
                      Hyssop tea fasts.
                    
                      
                        | Hyssop 
                            fast,Drink 2 quarts of hyssop tea per day for 3 to 4 days 
                            and avoid red meat and dairy.
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                      I think you do that anyway. But try the hyssop. It is an 
                      amazing cleaner and may help. Expect viral load swings while 
                      on mood elevators. Try Same or Zen. In good health
                     
                      Lloyd
                    PS. 
                      I would love to post this message because people and doctors 
                      need to know this information. I remove all names address 
                      etc. If it is OK, please let me know.
                    
                    Hi 
                      Lloyd,
                    Thank 
                      you so much for your help! Please feel free to post, I hope 
                      it helps someone someday. I can't wait until my next test 
                      and will keep you informed as to the progress. Words cannot 
                      express my gratitude for your efforts.
                    D.